First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available

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Following our last news post regarding this new "Generations Selects" toyline (previously called "Select Series"), we finally have new images of the first two releases, Deluxe Class Red Swoop and Ricochet! These two figures are redecos of Power of the Primes Swoop and Jazz respectively. Red Swoop is based of the original G1 toy's colors (which can be found on the stock renders for the Power of the Primes toy), while Ricochet is meant to evoke the Headmasters character Stepper.

Details on these new figures from Hasbro:

Transformers Generations Selects:

Generations Selects is a fan-dedicated collection of figures featuring special edition, limited release versions of Transformers characters. They’re mail-order only, shipped in special packaging exclusive to this line. We launched this line for our fans to expand their collection and make it truly unique.

Power of the Primes Dinobot Red Swoop:

The original 1985 Transformers toy release of Swoop had red deco. TFans can get a Swoop with red deco inspired by the original G1 toy. You won’t find it in stores!

Power of the Primes Ricochet:

Ricochet deco is based on the 1987 Targetmaster, known in Japan as Stepper. It has the character’s classic flame deco, as well as sleek gold rims and gold accents.

Both figures are limited-release and mail-order only.

Additionally, the figures are also up for preorder at Entertainment Earth, and appear to be exclusives! Each are $19.99 and will start shipping out February 2019.

Generations Selects Ricochet preorder
Generations Selects Red Swoop preorder

Ricochet's description:

Exclusive! Transformers Generations Selects bring back favorite characters from across the globe as exciting entrants into the Cybertronian Wars. Big robots join the Siege with this Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Ricochet (Stepper) - Exclusive! Figure is compatible with Combiner Wars and Power of the Primes Deluxe and Voyager toys (sold separately) to serve as a limb in a custom giant robot. Autobot car transforms from sportscar to a robot with a fist and a blaster. Black and gold car inspired by the super-rare Japanese Targetmaster toy Stepper.

Red Swoop's description:

Exclusive! Transformers Generations Selects bring back favorite characters from across the globe as exciting entrants into the Cybertronian Wars. Big robots join the Siege with this Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop - Exclusive! Figure is compatible with Combiner Wars and Power of the Primes Deluxe and Voyager toys (sold separately) to serve as a limb in a custom giant robot like Volcanicus. Autobot prehistoric creature transforms from pteranodon to a robot with a fist and a sword. Red and clear pteranodon inspired by the original toy deco of the original 1985 Swoop release in the USA.

So thoughts on the new toyline? Will you pick these up? Check out the images below and tell us in the forums below!

Credit(s): Hasbro, Entertainment Earth

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Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996262)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 30th, 2018 @ 12:49pm CST

You know I never liked how PotP Jazz looked, not once. But Ricochet over here...that is a niiiiice pice of fender.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996263)
Posted by Amelie on November 30th, 2018 @ 1:00pm CST

Nemesis Maximo wrote:You know I never liked how PotP Jazz looked, not once. But Ricochet over here...that is a niiiiice pice of fender.

I 100% agree. I didn't care for Jazz, but that Ricochet scheme has really made the mold shine. The white on Jazz was overbearing and there wasn't enough black to break it up.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996264)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2018 @ 1:02pm CST

Ricochet/Stepper looks fantastic! My only gripe (and this is really only a personal issue I take with the figure) is that it has the correct white hands. You heard me. I'm disappointed because the color of the hands is correct. I was hoping they would do what they did with Power of the Primes Jazz and do the fists in the "opposite" color. PotP Jazz has white hands when they should be black. I wanted them to do Ricochet with black fists so I could just swap them with Jazz's, giving Jazz proper black hands and Ricochet white. Well, that plan is out the window, unfortunately. I'm still DEFINITELY getting this Ricochet figure, though. We're getting ever closer to having complete combiner teams for every Combiner Wars/Power of the Primes torso, folks!

I'll be using "Red Swoop" as a Deluxe version of Titan Master Ptero from Titans Return. That's yet another character we can add to the pool of potentional arms and legs for combiners. We're getting ever closer to having complete combiner teams for every Combiner Wars/Power of the Primes torso, folks!

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996265)
Posted by RiddlerJ on November 30th, 2018 @ 1:06pm CST

I wish I could've had time to mull over the details but I snatched them up fast. I was afraid dawdling would've cost me. Now, of course, they'll appear cheaper somewhere else.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996273)
Posted by Short Circuit on November 30th, 2018 @ 1:57pm CST

I snagged them quick as well. Mainly because I want Inferno Cab to have a symmetrical combiner with Jazz and blue Swoop :-P

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996276)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:07pm CST

I was interested in these before we found out ET will be the exclusive carrier AND Riccocet doesn't come with a Targetmaster.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996278)
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:13pm CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was interested in these before we found out ET will be the exclusive carrier AND Riccocet doesn't come with a Targetmaster.

Just two dollars more at BBTS, though, which I think is a reasonable price.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996281)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:14pm CST

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was interested in these before we found out ET will be the exclusive carrier AND Riccocet doesn't come with a Targetmaster.

Not necessarily so!

Big Bad Toy Store

Ricochet: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/84341
Red Swoop: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/VariationDetails/84338

TF Source

Ricochet: https://tfsource.com/generations-selects/deluxe-ricochet-stepper/
Red Swoop: https://tfsource.com/generations-selects/deluxe-red-swoop/

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996285)
Posted by o.supreme on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:30pm CST

actually BBTS would be the cheaper option for me, with $4 flat rate shipping (as opposed to EA's $6.95 shipping plus $1.45 tax for being in CA).

I pre-ordered Riccochet. Swoop looks great, but I don't need another one. Lets just hope there are more select series down the line...A Chromia & Greenlight release with their combiner functionality in tact would be amazing!

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996286)
Posted by WeatherManNX01 on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:35pm CST

o.supreme wrote:actually BBTS would be the cheaper option for me, with $4 flat rate shipping (as opposed to EA's $6.95 shipping plus $1.45 tax for being in CA)

I was wondering about their shipping, as I've never ordered from them before.

TFSource also has them for $21.99, so you could potentially even get them with free shipping if you have other items.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996290)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:42pm CST

Still no interest whatsoever in Red Swoop (he doesn't even have the toy-accurate head, lame), but Ricochet looks amazing. I was expecting him to look good, but not THIS good. Preordered immediately, and looking forward to how many other Selects are coming.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996291)
Posted by Cobotron on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:44pm CST

These look great!
I went ahead and jumped on Ricochet. I don't have any version of that character in my collection, and this one looks super cool.
Swoop looks nice too, but I'm happy with my Bloop.

I'm excited to see what else they do with this series.
CW Sideswipe and Ratchet. PLEEEEEEEZEEE? :PRAY:

And more Ladybots too!

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996292)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:44pm CST

These both look amazing, Ricohet owns that mold.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996295)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:56pm CST

I'll wait on Ricochet, because of a possible, detrimental problem of that mold: clear plastic car shell. Red Swoop... no toy accurate head? What gives?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996297)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CST

Nemesis Primal wrote:Still no interest whatsoever in Red Swoop (he doesn't even have the toy-accurate head, lame), but Ricochet looks amazing. I was expecting him to look good, but not THIS good. Preordered immediately, and looking forward to how many other Selects are coming.

I too wish Red Swoop had the visor headsculpt. That would make him even more distinct as a potential separate character. Mine shall be Titans Return Ptero. Now I just have to figure out which combiner team he goes with. :-?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996299)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:05pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Ricochet/Stepper looks fantastic! My only gripe (and this is really only a personal issue I take with the figure) is that it has the correct white hands. You heard me. I'm disappointed because the color of the hands is correct. I was hoping they would do what they did with Power of the Primes Jazz and do the fists in the "opposite" color. PotP Jazz has white hands when they should be black. I wanted them to do Ricochet with black fists so I could just swap them with Jazz's, giving Jazz proper black hands and Ricochet white. Well, that plan is out the window, unfortunately.

It probably comes down to mold layout. If it's any consolation Jazz's hands being white plastic means they should take well to dyeing.

My hopes for this line:
* Combiner-limb Sideswipe from the CW Breakdown mold (To complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Combiner-limb Windcharger from either the same, the Wheeljack variant, or the Dead End mold (Again, to complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Scorn (retooled from Grimlock)
* G2-colors Shuttle Blastoff to correct Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus
* G2 Defensor to round out the Combiner Wars G2 stuff
* Amalgamous Prime with Waverider Decoy Armor
* Regular releases of the other relegated Prime Masters, again with Decoy Armor ideally

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996301)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST

Cobotron wrote:These look great!
I went ahead and jumped on Ricochet. I don't have any version of that character in my collection, and this one looks super cool.
Swoop looks nice too, but I'm happy with my Bloop.

I'm excited to see what else they do with this series.
CW Sideswipe and Ratchet. PLEEEEEEEZEEE?

And more Ladybots too!

Might be getting Greenlight! Saw this elsewhere on the interwebs:

Ladybot.jpg

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I'll wait on Ricochet, because of a possible, detrimental problem of that mold: clear plastic car shell. Red Swoop... no toy accurate head? What gives?

I wouldn't mind that, actually. It could help me pretend that Red Swoop and Blue Swoop are different characters. Like Jet Blast Off and Shuttle Blast Off. *Shrug emoji*

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996302)
Posted by no-one on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST

I locked em both down at BBTS to mull it over. Might cancel Swoop after doing some image comparisons with old blue. Ricochet is a keep and his deco is slick. That side flame gives me a bit of hot wheels vibes though. Love the deco ;)^

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996304)
Posted by o.supreme on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:11pm CST

DecepticonFinishline wrote:I wouldn't mind that, actually. It could help me pretend that Red Swoop and Blue Swoop are different characters. Like Jet Blast Off and Shuttle Blast Off. *Shrug emoji*

I'm weird when it comes to things like that. If a repaint is clearly a new character, I'm all for it. If it is 2 toys with the *same name* but are clearly different molds, I can work with that too.

Its just that when 2 toys, have the same name, and are from the same mold (only the paint is different)...I can't work with it, unless I can easily re imagine it such as Golden Lagoon Starscream, I can easily pass as Sunstorm.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996307)
Posted by Manterax Prime on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CST

I think I'm the only one who thinks Stepper is still a prototype.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996310)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST

o.supreme wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:I wouldn't mind that, actually. It could help me pretend that Red Swoop and Blue Swoop are different characters. Like Jet Blast Off and Shuttle Blast Off. *Shrug emoji*

I'm weird when it comes to things like that. If a repaint is clearly a new character, I'm all for it. If it is 2 toys with the *same name* but are clearly different molds, I can work with that too.

Its just that when 2 toys, have the same name, and are from the same mold (only the paint is different)...I can't work with it, unless I can easily re imagine it such as Golden Lagoon Starscream, I can easily pass as Sunstorm.

Blue Swoop is Swoop, Red Swoop is "The Veteran".

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996311)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:31pm CST

carytheone wrote:I locked em both down at BBTS to mull it over. Might cancel Swoop after doing some image comparisons with old blue.

I did some comparisons too. From what I can tell, Red Swoop is only different in two ways. One is obvious. All of the blue paint on the torso from the regular retail release of Power of the Primes Swoop is swapped with red paint on this new version. The only other difference is that they picked out the "teeth" from the sculpted lower jaw on the torso with gold! It looks nice. That detail is easily missed in the regular retail version, as they're painted over in blue with the rest of the torso. Everything else is seemingly the same, including the tampographs on the chest, the turquoise lines on the wrists, and the blue eyes on the face.

Sabrblade wrote:Blue Swoop is Swoop, Red Swoop is "The Veteran".

Or Ptero!

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996316)
Posted by RiddlerJ on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:38pm CST

NO! It has to be another name that begins with a S!

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996317)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:39pm CST

I think I'll call Red Swoop Autobot Divebomb and have him be a past version of blue swoop.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996318)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:41pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
carytheone wrote:I locked em both down at BBTS to mull it over. Might cancel Swoop after doing some image comparisons with old blue.

I did some comparisons too. From what I can tell, Red Swoop is only different in two ways. One is obvious. All of the blue paint on the torso from the regular retail release of Power of the Primes Swoop is swapped with red paint on this new version. The only other difference is that they picked out the "teeth" from the sculpted lower jaw on the torso with gold! It looks nice. That detail is easily missed in the regular retail version, as they're painted over in blue with the rest of the torso. Everything else is seemingly the same, including the tampographs on the chest, the turquoise lines on the wrists, and the blue eyes on the face.

Sabrblade wrote:Blue Swoop is Swoop, Red Swoop is "The Veteran".

Or Ptero!

1. That's blue/red plastic you're talking about with the torso, not paint. His torso isn't die-cast like G1 Swoop's

2. That's.. that's not a "sculpted lower jaw" on the torso o.O It's just greebling. What gave the impression it was a sculpted lower jaw?
3. What about the lack of gold paint on the inner face of the upper beak?

EDIT: What is it with that glitch of an extra closing quote tag randomly getting inserted in layered quotes?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996319)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:41pm CST

RiddlerJ wrote:NO! It has to be another name that begins with a S!

Strafe?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996320)
Posted by Lore Keeper on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:42pm CST

I had hoped since PotP was still young that they'd release red Swoop eventually. I love the look of blue Swoop and want to display him separately while the red one creates a more color coordinated Volcanicus. Wish granted it seems! Ricochet looks amazing and is an easy buy, but I am infinitely disappointed they didn't give him a Targetmaster partner. The molds are available. Total missed opportunity.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996321)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:45pm CST

Lore Keeper wrote:I had hoped since PotP was still young that they'd release red Swoop eventually. I love the look of blue Swoop and want to display him separately while the red one creates a more color coordinated Volcanicus. Wish granted it seems! Ricochet looks amazing and is an easy buy, but I am infinitely disappointed they didn't give him a Targetmaster partner. The molds are available. Total missed opportunity.

Yeah, well, Hasbro's anal about their price uniformity and has been for ages.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:NO! It has to be another name that begins with a S!

Strafe?

There's a thought, although he might get mixed up with Grimlock's son by the same name.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think I'll call Red Swoop Autobot Divebomb and have him be a past version of blue swoop.

Marvelous. Simply marvelous.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996322)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I had hoped since PotP was still young that they'd release red Swoop eventually. I love the look of blue Swoop and want to display him separately while the red one creates a more color coordinated Volcanicus. Wish granted it seems! Ricochet looks amazing and is an easy buy, but I am infinitely disappointed they didn't give him a Targetmaster partner. The molds are available. Total missed opportunity.

Yeah, well, Hasbro's anal about their price uniformity and has been for ages.

Not when it comes to exclusives, but it looks like Selects will follow the traditional Size Classes, as it is, for all intents and purposes, like a regular line.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996323)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:I did some comparisons too. From what I can tell, Red Swoop is only different in two ways. One is obvious. All of the blue paint on the torso from the regular retail release of Power of the Primes Swoop is swapped with red paint on this new version. The only other difference is that they picked out the "teeth" from the sculpted lower jaw on the torso with gold! It looks nice. That detail is easily missed in the regular retail version, as they're painted over in blue with the rest of the torso. Everything else is seemingly the same, including the tampographs on the chest, the turquoise lines on the wrists, and the blue eyes on the face.

Actually, it looks to me like they also left the dino head as clear only without the gold under paint.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996324)
Posted by starrhero on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:53pm CST

Man, with all of this and the news involving WfC and its potential version of Greenlight, Slamdance, & Skywarp, I can't help but be excited.

When it comes to my thoughts, Swoop looks pretty good in red, (Rwoop? Sroop? eh...) but it'll be a hard sell considering I do actually perfer the blue cartoon acurate colors. Might get this one and repurpose it as another character. Maybe someone related to Slash?

Then there's Ricochet, who, holy cow he looks fantastic. He rocks the Jazz mold like it's nothing at all. Does somewhat suck that he doesn't have his targetmaster partner, but they could release him in siege seperatly, and it's not like battlemasters cost much.

Now my hopes for Artic Megatron are even higher. But now my question is, who's next?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996325)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:My hopes for this line:
* Combiner-limb Sideswipe from the CW Breakdown mold (To complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Combiner-limb Windcharger from either the same, the Wheeljack variant, or the Dead End mold (Again, to complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Scorn (retooled from Grimlock)
* G2-colors Shuttle Blastoff to correct Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus
* G2 Defensor to round out the Combiner Wars G2 stuff
* Amalgamous Prime with Waverider Decoy Armor
* Regular releases of the other relegated Prime Masters, again with Decoy Armor ideally

Forgot something:
G2 PotP Dinobots

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996327)
Posted by Emerje on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:00pm CST

These days the idea of Entertainment Earth exclusives seems to mean they get a slightly better price and Hasbro promotes them while they're still available everywhere else including Gamestop like we saw with the gold Bee Movie Bumblebee. I pre-ordered mine from TFSource so I can get them shipped for free with Big Powered and blue Big Convoy.

Emerje

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996329)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:08pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I think I'll call Red Swoop Autobot Divebomb and have him be a past version of blue swoop.

Marvelous. Simply marvelous.

I thank you

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996331)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:16pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. That's blue/red plastic you're talking about with the torso, not paint. His torso isn't die-cast like G1 Swoop's
2. That's.. that's not a "sculpted lower jaw" on the torso o.O It's just greebling. What gave the impression it was a sculpted lower jaw?
3. What about the lack of gold paint on the inner face of the upper beak?

EDIT: What is it with that glitch of an extra closing quote tag randomly getting inserted in layered quotes?

1. Oops! I think you're right. I don't have my Blue Swoop in front of me right now, so trying to imagine it in my head, I thought it had thick, glossy blue paint slathered on the torso. I guess not!

2. What gave me the impression is that the greebling looks like a nice row of teeth, lol! Take another look. Even if it's accidental, it's an uncanny resemblance.

3. You're right, I did forget about the gold paint under the beak. They left Red Swoop's upper beak completely clear. It's another nice distinction, I suppose. Technically, though, that means that Red Swoop is being sold with probably LESS paint than the regular retail version, for MORE money! 8-}

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996333)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:21pm CST

Manterax Prime wrote:I think I'm the only one who thinks Stepper is still a prototype.

Curious, why do you think that?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996335)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:50pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:My hopes for this line:
* Combiner-limb Sideswipe from the CW Breakdown mold (To complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Combiner-limb Windcharger from either the same, the Wheeljack variant, or the Dead End mold (Again, to complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Scorn (retooled from Grimlock)
* G2-colors Shuttle Blastoff to correct Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus
* G2 Defensor to round out the Combiner Wars G2 stuff
* Amalgamous Prime with Waverider Decoy Armor
* Regular releases of the other relegated Prime Masters, again with Decoy Armor ideally

Forgot something:
G2 PotP Dinobots

It seems you and I have similar tastes. I don't need the G2 Dinos, though, to be honest.

I would also add Translucent Prime Masters.
Combinable-Chromia.
Combinable-rumored-Greenlight.
Leozack from the Starscream mold.
Legends class Jellguar from Beachcomber?? Maybe?
Retooled combiner Grapple. (DO SOMETHING COOL WITH THE CRANE TO HIDE THE COMBINER HEAD!)

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996336)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 4:51pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:2. What gave me the impression is that the greebling looks like a nice row of teeth, lol! Take another look. Even if it's accidental, it's an uncanny resemblance.

*shrug* It's always looked more like just pipe greebling to me. I've taken plenty of close looks at it - it's a detail copied directly from the original Swoop toy (pictured below), which I have repainted twice (once for cartoon accuracy, once as a do-over because of sloppiness and paint wear) and will likely repaint at least the torso of a third time now that I have metallic dark blue paint.

Wolfman Jake wrote:3. You're right, I did forget about the gold paint under the beak. They left Red Swoop's upper beak completely clear. It's another nice distinction, I suppose. Technically, though, that means that Red Swoop is being sold with probably LESS paint than the regular retail version, for MORE money!

Well, you could call the gold paint detail app you noted an equivalent, but still.

EDIT: Thought of another good idea for this line:
Cartoon-colors Slag as a counterpoint to Red Swoop

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996342)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on November 30th, 2018 @ 5:23pm CST

Couldn't they have picked someone else to be the retailer damn it. :SG-CONS:

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996343)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 30th, 2018 @ 5:25pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:2. What gave me the impression is that the greebling looks like a nice row of teeth, lol! Take another look. Even if it's accidental, it's an uncanny resemblance.

*shrug* It's always looked more like just pipe greebling to me. I've taken plenty of close looks at it - it's a detail copied directly from the original Swoop toy (pictured below), which I have repainted twice (once for cartoon accuracy, once as a do-over because of sloppiness and paint wear) and will likely repaint at least the torso of a third time now that I have metallic dark blue paint.

Interesting. I've never had the G1 Swoop toy, so that detailing is news to me. I guess it could just be segmented piping as you've said. It's still very evocative of the kind of tooth detailing we seen them do before on figures like T30/Legends Rhinox, so that's where my mind went at first. It's weird that Hasbro decided to pick out that detail on this release of Swoop when it's not colored like that on the original toy or in the cartoon character model (or in the mass release modern update, for that matter). They might as well have used the gold paint the saved on by keeping the clear plastic beak unpainted and added a few more toy-inspired "sticker" details/tampographs to really drive home the "G1 toy version" idea.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996346)
Posted by Manterax Prime on November 30th, 2018 @ 5:35pm CST

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:I think I'm the only one who thinks Stepper is still a prototype.

Curious, why do you think that?

The somewhat sloppy gold paint on his waist.
The metal flake paint on the clear plastic (why do they not learn :BANG_HEAD:

), it clashes with the rest of the figure. Should've been a flat black.
Overall, it looks like somebody just took a Jazz figure and gave the Stepper treatment as quick as they could for the photos.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996347)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 30th, 2018 @ 5:43pm CST

Manterax Prime wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:I think I'm the only one who thinks Stepper is still a prototype.

Curious, why do you think that?

The somewhat sloppy gold paint on his waist.
The metal flake paint on the clear plastic (why do they not learn ), it clashes with the rest of the figure. Should've been a flat black.

1. Why would these make you think it was a prototype? A prototype would more likely be all-painted.
2a. That's almost surely not metal flake paint, it doesn't catch the light right for that. It's more likely regular paint showing op oddly because of the light shining into the clear plastic. Also, this is a Hasbro-led toy not a Takara exclusive.

2b. No, it should not be flat black. Flat black would look hideously dull next to the shiny black plastic.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996366)
Posted by Colt on November 30th, 2018 @ 6:53pm CST

Absolutely love the colors on them. They are so gorgeous.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996372)
Posted by Manterax Prime on November 30th, 2018 @ 7:59pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Manterax Prime wrote:I think I'm the only one who thinks Stepper is still a prototype.

Curious, why do you think that?

The somewhat sloppy gold paint on his waist.
The metal flake paint on the clear plastic (why do they not learn ), it clashes with the rest of the figure. Should've been a flat black.

1. Why would these make you think it was a prototype? A prototype would more likely be all-painted.
2a. That's almost surely not metal flake paint, it doesn't catch the light right for that. It's more likely regular paint showing op oddly because of the light shining into the clear plastic. Also, this is a Hasbro-led toy not a Takara exclusive.
2b. No, it should not be flat black. Flat black would look hideously dull next to the shiny black plastic.

Well, a Twitter user named Gherkin caught a glimpse of a factory sample number on the hood/bumper.

And I just realized that what I initially saw as sloppy gold paint on the waist is actually a 2nd factory sample number.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996378)
Posted by robotcaveman on November 30th, 2018 @ 9:18pm CST

Looks good. I look forward to getting Ricochet and others in this Generationd Sepect line. Hope to see about this new line on TFWiki super-super soon. I hope they won’t cost anywhere near $40 I try to budget myself.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996379)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2018 @ 9:36pm CST

I'll use Blue Swoop as Cartoon "Me Swoop" Swoop and Red Swoop as Marvel "Divebomb --> Swoop --> The Veteran" Swoop.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996381)
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 30th, 2018 @ 9:47pm CST

Hope the white patches above the tires/shoulders get made black for the final version of ricochet but I'll be pre-ordering it tomorrow in all likelyhood. Skipping the Swoop with having the blue version.

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996383)
Posted by Rysquad on November 30th, 2018 @ 10:11pm CST

Loving Red Swoop. I hope we get more!

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996386)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on November 30th, 2018 @ 10:26pm CST

It wouldn't cost too much to buy a few spare Battle Masters to customize into Nightstick AND Nebulon. I'm already stocking up on extras whenever I can find a sale.

And I'm glad someone mentioned how easy it is to dye white plastic black for Jazz-hands. That'll be a lot easier then the project for which I've already bought 2 extra PotP Jazzez: Prime Wars Backstreet! That, more than Stepper, is the character this mold was made for IMO, because his alt's model of Porsche looks way more like Backstreet's than the Martini, and we need him to finish out the TAV Triggerbots. Just come up with a weapon configuration for Override, and any scramble gestalt could get an emergency trigger-arm upgrade to counter Thunder Mayhem!

But it looks like I'll still have to dye and paint a Jazz myself...and find a gun mold on Shapeways that looks like Backstreet's TFU model cannons. Any suggestions?

Re: First Images of Transformers Generations Selects Deluxe Red Swoop and Ricochet + preorders available (1996389)
Posted by Rysquad on November 30th, 2018 @ 10:50pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
My hopes for this line:
* Combiner-limb Sideswipe from the CW Breakdown mold (To complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Combiner-limb Windcharger from either the same, the Wheeljack variant, or the Dead End mold (Again, to complete the homage to "Masquerade")
* Scorn (retooled from Grimlock)
* G2-colors Shuttle Blastoff to correct Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus
* G2 Defensor to round out the Combiner Wars G2 stuff
* Amalgamous Prime with Waverider Decoy Armor
* Regular releases of the other relegated Prime Masters, again with Decoy Armor ideally

I’m all for CW Sideswipe and Windcharger.

For me:

* Bring in UW Ratchet as CW Ratchet.
* CW Ultra Magnus & TR Powermaster Optimus Prime as TR Ultra Magnus or TR Delta Magnus
* TR Laser Optimus Prime as TR Laser Ultra Magnus
* Instead of a G2 CW Defensor, do a CW Guard City
* TR Skyshadow to TR Omega Supreme
* Make a CW Thundercracker and CW Skywarp - or PotP Thundercracker and PotP Skywarp

This is basically new Collector Club...

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