The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Review: 96 MB of L3 3D V-Cache Designed For Gamers
by Gavin Bonshor on June 30, 2022 8:00 AM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
- AMD
- DDR4
- AM4
- Ryzen
- V-Cache
- Ryzen 7 5800X3D
- Zen3
- 3D V-Cache
CPU Benchmark Performance: Legacy and Web
In order to gather data to compare with older benchmarks, we are still keeping a number of tests under our ‘legacy’ section. This includes all the former major versions of CineBench (R15, R11.5, R10) as well as x264 HD 3.0 and the first very naïve version of 3DPM v2.1. We won’t be transferring the data over from the old testing into Bench, otherwise, it would be populated with 200 CPUs with only one data point, so it will fill up as we test more CPUs like the others.
The other section here is our web tests.
We are using DDR4 memory at the following settings:
- DDR4-3200
Legacy
Looking at Ryzen 7 5800X3D's performance in our legacy section of our CPU test suite, it does seemingly lack behind the Intel 12th Gen Core series in terms of overall grunt. The most interesting element is that the discrepancy is clear to see between the clock speeds of the 5800X3D and the vanilla 5800X; the 5800X is slightly faster and is marginally better than the 5800X in compute-heavy tasks.
Web
Even in our web-based tests, the regular Ryzen 7 5800X outperforms the 5800X3D with 3D V-Cache quite consistently. This shows that the additional L3 cache has no bearing on performance in this area.
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GeoffreyA - Friday, July 8, 2022 - link
"BTW, 24 fps movies look horrible to me. 24 fps is something they settled on way back when film was heavy, bulky, and expensive."I can't help commenting that, for my part, movies look unsightly over 24 fps, giving them a low-quality TV-like appearance. Then again, that's me, a person who can't stand digital cameras to begin with and laments the phasing out of film.
mode_13h - Friday, July 8, 2022 - link
> for my part, movies look unsightly over 24 fps, giving them a low-quality TV-like appearance.I know some people say that, but when you get accustomed to watching good quality motion interpolation, it's hard to go back.
Even famous Hollywood actors and directors have complained about motion interpolation, but I think the main thing they're worried about is that it reveals subtleties in their facial expressions that can reveal sub-par acting. For things like camera pans and action sequences, it's pretty much without a downside.
BTW, movies were originally shown with a strobed backlight. CRT TVs had a similar effect (which is apparent if you ever look at a fast-exposure photograph of a CRT display). When you start playing them on a display with continuous illumination, motion blur becomes much more apparent. That's why I think plasma and LCD TVs started going out of their way to add motion interpolation - it wasn't a trivial or inexpensive feature to add!
GeoffreyA - Saturday, July 9, 2022 - link
It may seem I'm coming from the Middle Ages, but too smooth motion is the thing that strikes me as ugly in movies. Of course, I don't want a choppy frame rate, but there's a noticeable difference when departing from 24/25. When I think of Jackson with his slick, 48-fps Hobbit, I feel the man was out of his mind. My opinion is that the taste of the industry has gone down: it's all about "vibrant" colours and details now, an obsession with ever-increasing resolution, HDR, smooth motion, and fake-looking CGI. I contend, today's movies can try all they want but will never match the excellence of the past. (Say, will today's stuff ever beat the realism of Ben-Hur's chariot chase? I doubt it.)Hollywood feels that infinite detail is the future, but the truth is, our minds fill in the blanks and far more effectively. Indeed, one can dispense with motion altogether: 1962's La jetée, a succession of photos and sound, demonstrates this well.
mode_13h - Sunday, July 10, 2022 - link
There's good stuff getting made, today. It just might not be the top Hollywood block busters. With streaming being so pervasive and the tech & tools of movie making now being so accessible, the door is wide open to just about anyone with ideas.Far be it from me to convince you, though. Watch whatever you like. 24 Hz, if you prefer. Just don't try to tell me that low-framerate adds to the experience rather than detracts. We'll just have to disagree on that.
P.S. If you want to talk about letting your mind fill in the blanks, it's hard to beat reading, radio, and podcasts. I'm so glad I read Dune before watching it, because I got the chance to conjure all my own imagery and that made it so much more fun to see what the different film versions came up with.
GeoffreyA - Sunday, July 10, 2022 - link
You're right, reading, radio, and podcasts are far better than gazing at video; and I admit I feel impoverished because I read so little these days. Time was, all I did was read, nothing else.Radio dramas are enjoyable and stimulating. Last year, I heard a few episodes of "Suspense" from the '40s/'50s. Fantastic and of a high quality, the top actors of the time participating. I remember one with Ava Gardner and another with James Stewart. Reminds me, I must return to "Suspense" again!
mode_13h - Wednesday, July 13, 2022 - link
I used to listen to audio books when I had a long commute. I still listen to stuff while doing chores, but most of it is spent just keeping up on the news. So much crazy stuff going on in the world...GeoffreyA - Thursday, July 14, 2022 - link
Exactly, and with no end in sight.bji - Thursday, June 30, 2022 - link
The Ryzen 7 5800X is listed at $350 in your first page chart but $449 in every one of your benchmark charts (or at least, the ones I've seen thus far, on the first page).yankeeDDL - Thursday, June 30, 2022 - link
Typo: "...when comparing the Ryzen 9 5900X (12c/16t)" should be ".../24t)".spaceship9876 - Thursday, June 30, 2022 - link
Did you guys forget to post an article about the new cpu and gpu cores announced by ARM a few days ago?