Paphiopedilum (malipoense x Fanaticum) - Orchid Board

gnathaniel · #1 01-01-2014, 04:16 PM

First-bloom seedling, NS is about 10 cm and would be close to 14 if it opened flatter. I like it a lot though I'm not sure how much it improves over either parent, nonetheless a nice flower to have around. One of my favorite aspects is that it has a long, thick malipoense-ish spike but only took about 2.5 months from first showing bud to bloom like this. Happy New Year, everyone!

Paphiopedilum (malipoense x Fanaticum) by gnathaniel, on Flickr

billc · #2 01-01-2014, 04:19 PM

Nice! The red veining shows really well with the white pouch.

Bill

disalover · #3 12-10-2014, 12:53 PM

Wonderful

WhiteRabbit · #4 12-10-2014, 07:35 PM

Nice!

MrHappyRotter · #5 12-10-2014, 08:33 PM

I saw a number of these on Ebay this past year, and on some vendor sites and considered picking one up. Overall, I agree, this isn't a quantum leap improvement over it's parents, but I imagine it's like a slightly smaller malipoense that doesn't take millennia for the spike and bud to develop. Plus, compared to Fanaticum, I'm guessing there's a higher chance of stronger fragrance, but that's of course going to vary from plant to plant.

I like it though. I've got a malipoense and a Fanaticum in spike right now, so I'm waiting to see how they compare.

geogeo21 · #6 12-10-2014, 08:44 PM

i have a fanaticum that hasn't grown nothing not even leaves since i bought it in august. do they go through a fall/winter dormancy? the roots look healthy.

gnathaniel · #7 12-10-2014, 10:59 PM

Thanks, everyone! No spikes showing yet this year, though it's grown nicely since the bloom photo was taken.

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Originally Posted by MrHappyRotter

I saw a number of these on Ebay this past year, and on some vendor sites and considered picking one up. Overall, I agree, this isn't a quantum leap improvement over it's parents, but I imagine it's like a slightly smaller malipoense that doesn't take millennia for the spike and bud to develop. Plus, compared to Fanaticum, I'm guessing there's a higher chance of stronger fragrance, but that's of course going to vary from plant to plant.

I like it though. I've got a malipoense and a Fanaticum in spike right now, so I'm waiting to see how they compare.

Right on all surmises! I think this came from Orchidaceae, Inc. (orchidsnw on ebay) a little over a year ago, already in low spike. It progressed to blooming very quickly and IIRC there was some fragrance in the mild-to-imaginary range, hopefully stronger next time. The plant seems slightly more compact than the typical malipoense but time will tell. The foliage color and patterns show definite micranthum influence, IMO a very good thing because a) it's pretty and b) I'm less likely to confuse it for a malipoense should the tag ever get lost. I look forward to seeing your Paphs bloom, I lost my nice multi-growth Fanaticum to sudden rot this summer.

geogeo, Parvisepalum Paphs can be maddeningly slow to grow but if the roots are good then it should just be a matter of time.

MrHappyRotter · #8 12-11-2014, 08:52 PM

I didn't even notice that this thread was started almost a year ago, it showed up in the new posts list and I didn't realize it had been resurrected.

I bet another way that this hybrid improves on its parents is that it's likely to be less stoloniferous than Fanaticum. For those who aren't aware, Paph. micranthum often produces pups on long "runners" so even though each fan is quite small, the plant rambles and takes up a lot of space. Since micranthum is one of the parents of Paph. Fanaticum, that hybrid quite often spreads out with new growths forming an inch or more from the parent. So, the more diluted the micranthum genes, the closer the new growths appear to the parent growth. To me, that's a good thing. Stoloniferous plants take up a lot of precious space for those of us that grow under lights.

Parvies are the darlings of the Paph world, and for good reason in my opinion. But, I do agree, some of them are on the more finicky side of things in terms of care and they do seem to grow a little slower than some other groups of paphs. I will say to anybody that is considering trying out this group, start with a hybrid that has Paph. delenatii as a parent. That species is well-regarded as imparting adaptability and vigor into its hybrids.

NYCorchidman · #9 12-12-2014, 08:13 PM

That looks just like straight malipoense, but not surprising given that it's 75% malipoense.

I have a couple of seedlings of this hybrid and wonder how mine will look in bloom one day in the distant future. lol

I think it's an improvement in that the plant is smallish, leaves are pretty ( like both micranthum and malipoense leaves, although I like micranthum leaves a little more and they are smaller too!) and the spike does not take million years like a straight malipoense does.